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rajithae03
rajithae03
Who is the most Strategic Player ?
May 19 2009, 8:20 AM EDT | Post edited: May 19 2009, 8:20 AM EDT
I think its Stephan. 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
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Mulchahy
1. RE: Who is the most Strategic Player ?
Aug 2 2009, 11:02 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 2 2009, 11:02 PM EDT
Of season 18? than yes it was Stephan. Of all time? Rob Cesternino: The Amazon. He knew how to play the game. He didn't care about friends or what not, but quietly took control until he lost the final immunity challenge. They need another player like him or Richard Hatch. They are entertaing and smart. I love them both! Do you find this valuable?    

clearmount14
2. RE: Who is the most Strategic Player ?
Aug 17 2009, 10:30 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 17 2009, 10:30 PM EDT
No its Parvati! she was an amazing stratgist and social player! Do you find this valuable?    
mystical_pippin
mystical_pippin
3. RE: Who is the most Strategic Player ?
Aug 18 2009, 2:17 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 18 2009, 2:44 AM EDT
OMG! Parvati? SERIOUSLY???? C'mon - Parvati was smart but she is no where near being the MOST strategic. She had a lot of good luck in her winning season. She had no real plan except to stay close to the "best" players. That's not strategy - it's smart but it isn't strategy. She was making alliances left and right - she was all over the place. She almost got caught several times in her lies which means she couldn't keep it together with all of her alliances. She got LUCKY and that luck came from Amanda. The reason Parv won was because the other women on the jury were so pissed off that Amanda outsmarted them and they hated her because all the men liked her. When James commented at the FTC that he knew Amanda was going to win 2 of the black widow spiders made angry faces. In a few interviews after the show was over they slammed Amanda - their claws were showing big time. They said she couldn't swim, and contributed NOTHING to the camp. (so I guess they could go out and catch a shark any day too right?) Ciree let her emotions get to her and she voted for PARV as well because she was angry with Amanda for NOT choosing her to go to the final 2. Happens all the time on SURVIVOR. Most of the jury votes are emotional ones. All the men voted for Amanda because they thought she kicked butt and she outsmarted the black widows - but it wasn't enough unfortunately.

In Parv's first season she played awful she had no "plan" other than to use her feminine wiles to get close to the strongest player who she thought was Adam. Wrong again.
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mystical_pippin
mystical_pippin
4. RE: Who is the most Strategic Player ?
Aug 18 2009, 2:42 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 18 2009, 2:42 AM EDT
"Of season 18? than yes it was Stephan. Of all time? Rob Cesternino: The Amazon. He knew how to play the game. He didn't care about friends or what not, but quietly took control until he lost the final immunity challenge. They need another player like him or Richard Hatch. They are entertaing and smart. I love them both!"
I agree with you on Richard Hatch. He is the ONLY one who knew how to play that game on the very first season. While all the others were voting off people according to who didn't fit in or going by the order of the alphabet.... Richard was plotting. No one told him how to play. He just knew because he was a major strategist. I don't know about ROB C. though didn't he get voted out pretty early on in both of the seasons he was in? I don't remember him in his first season. I think Rob of Rob and Amber (can't remember his last name) was one of the best strategists. He had enough smarts to keep everyone from knowing that he had alliances with EVERYONE! And at the end when it started to fall apart he even instigated the argument between Rupert and Tom so that neither one of them would trust each other but him (Rob) instead. I thought that was pretty darn strategic.

Another one I think was the best was - Yul. He was constantly analyzing all the angles and working them out in his head and his discussions with Becky and Ozzie. After the show he said many times in interviews that he never made a decision without their approval. Plus he was smart enough to pull Jonathan Penner back into the alliance in order to use him. He was ruthless - yet smooth. He was diplomatic and used that to his advantage. And he was veru adaptable to the changes in the game. Very strategic and very smart. I think Amanda is right up there in the top 5. She did alot of the plotting in China and Fans vs Faves. And I have to say that the last SURVIVOR winner was pretty good too he knew he was a likable guy and he used that thru - out the game.
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rajithae03
rajithae03
5. RE: Who is the most Strategic Player ?
Aug 18 2009, 3:18 AM EDT | Post edited: Aug 18 2009, 3:18 AM EDT
My overall Strategic Player is Yau-man. He was the person who played the game more startergically from day 1- day 38. Do you find this valuable?    

Mulchahy
6. RE: Who is the most Strategic Player ?
Aug 18 2009, 12:09 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 18 2009, 12:09 PM EDT
Rob C. Was in the top 3 in the Amazon. He owned that game and according to Jeff "The the smartest player to never win". He disappointed me in All-Stars because he should have known not to trust Boston Rob. He only went home in the amazon because he let his fate slip into Jenna's hands when she won immunity.

I do agree with Yul. He amazed me and I do agree that he was like the Godfather. Earl from Fiji did great. He and Yau did what they could and he got all 9 votes. (granted his competition wasn't that hard but still). Another that stunned me was Todd from China. he just knew everything and Amanda and him kept their alliance enough on the down low that they weren't ever really a target. One of my favorites was Kenny from Gabon. He did get too cocky but hey, at least he played the game better than anybody that season with his mind games.

I wish everybody wouldn't hate Richard Hatch. He knew what he was doing and deserved that win way more than Kelly did. If only he paid his taxes thoug.
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7. RE: Who is the most Strategic Player ?
Aug 18 2009, 7:50 PM EDT | Post edited: Aug 18 2009, 7:50 PM EDT
Yul didn't do anything strategic to set himself up as a Godfather. He simply sat back and let people come to him. The fastest way to earn someone's trust is to tell them something totally unbelievable, then prove it is true. Or tell people you are going to do something outrageous, then do it exactly as described. Maybe that was his strategy. I somehow doubt he planned to win that way - he was just being himself. I would have likely played exactly the same way. I played my first-ever online Survivor game a few years back using this tact. At the tribe switchup, I was in the minority along with a player that had already chosen to not to be in an alliance with me. She had also p'd me off with some of her antics so I announced to everyone (including her) my intent to vote her off and why. Tribal council followed my lead and she was gone. From that point forward, everyone came to me for advice. I knew who had the hidden immunity idol so I secretly steered them away from voting for him. When I got wind of who was going to be voted off next, I told them ahead of time. It wasn't hard because I was pretty much choosing who got voted off. In the end, I won the game - much the same way Yul did. Strategy? Maybe, but not with trickery or lies. Do you find this valuable?